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Joanne Davis


David Barish
Joanne, I am sorry to hear that someone you know was injured, and injured in this way. This is an issue that needs to be addressed with nuance. We have seen suburbs overreact and restrict all ebikes. We have all seen two versions of ebikes in our travels. We have ridden with friends who no longer have the endurance they used to have and are able to continue cycling on an ebike. I have a friend who is still a strong cyclists but uses an ebike to commute so he can have a little assist to get home after a long day at work. They are cyclists and ride like cyclists. We have also seen ebikes where the rider hardly bothers to pedal and rides on a path or even a sidewalk like they are on a motorcycle. These are motorcycles and not bikes. Finding the right language in creating regulations and laws to encourage cyclists and restrict motorcyclists will be the challenge as we try to encourage cycling and still protect all users. In writing this message I am avoiding pointing fingers at any particular group or people or people of any particular age. The behavior is the issue. A part me thinks that a stricter speed limit may need to be enforced which could impact our fastest bike riders when they are on paths. This merits discussion. 

So, club members, how do you see it?

Earl Strassberger
Well said. Speed limits are called for but how do you enforce them?
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Joanne, I am sorry to hear that someone you know was injured, and injured in this way. This is an issue that needs to be addressed with nuance. We have seen suburbs overreact and restrict all ebikes. We have all seen two versions of ebikes in our travels. We have ridden with friends who no longer have the endurance they used to have and are able to continue cycling on an ebike. I have a friend who is still a strong cyclists but uses an ebike to commute so he can have a little assist to get home after a long day at work. They are cyclists and ride like cyclists. We have also seen ebikes where the rider hardly bothers to pedal and rides on a path or even a sidewalk like they are on a motorcycle. These are motorcycles and not bikes. Finding the right language in creating regulations and laws to encourage cyclists and restrict motorcyclists will be the challenge as we try to encourage cycling and still protect all users. In writing this message I am avoiding pointing fingers at any particular group or people or people of any particular age. The behavior is the issue. A part me thinks that a stricter speed limit may need to be enforced which could impact our fastest bike riders when they are on paths. This merits discussion. 

So, club members, how do you see it?

Scott Schaedel
Agree. Unfortunately, enforcement is impractical. It’s on us to be defensive on paths, especially high traffic ones.

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Mike Kruger

The way I see it, there are some attempts at control, but not enough.

 

  1. The Cook County Forest Preserve paths have a speed limit now, and only class 1 and 2 are allowed. There's also a set of Trail Watch volunteers who can provide education and call in a report. (I've been one for years.) That's the good news. The bad news: Enforcement of path speed limits is not a priority (relative to dumping, poaching, and drunken picknickers getting into fights, for instance.) Trail Watch isn't effective, because catching up to the e-bike rider going too fast isn't going to work.
  2. I sat through the Glenview village board discussion about changing the existing ordinance banning all e-bikes and scooters (not enforced). I was struck by these points:

3.      No training on rules of the road is required, e.g. for youth who haven't gone through driver training. So the Glenview Police propose not allowing those under 16 to use the e-bike motor. They can ride the e-bike, but not use the motor. (they are dreaming here). But perhaps some equivalent of driver training / traffic school should be required for e-bike riders.

4.      The police feel a lot of the issue is things that aren't really e-bikes. They are either small dirt bikes (that go faster) or e-bikes that have been modified to go greater than 20 mph.

 

So, enforcement is going to be a big issue to eliminate danger without the police getting nitpicky (e.g. Highland Park police wanting cyclists to put a foot down to indicate they stopped at stop signs).

 

But, as Dave Barish pointed out e-bikes can be enabling. A friend of mine is battling severe health issues, including weakness and balance issues. So he can't ride his 2 wheel recumbent any more, and just purchased an e-trike, and a ramp to get it into his small SUV. This is a pretty clear example of an e-bike being enabling for a long-time cyclist who doesn't want to give it up. (and given the price of an e-trike, definitely a commitment!)

 

 

Jane Kenamore
Thank you, Dave. Well said.

Pedal assist e-bikes allow us to continue to ride with younger friends, as we get older. We’ve all seen kids on class 2 e-bikes riding on the sidewalk or recklessly on a bike path. But they are not EBC cyclists,

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Rickie Cowin
There was a very informative webinar from Ride Illinois. They talked about e-bikes and e-motos.  This is a new issue and will take an along time to resolve. Dave, your response was well said.  We all need to be so watchful as we ride with the variety of bikes and scooters!
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